So he's got to live his life as a toad with all this baggage on him? Which I find kind of hard to believe but, then again, I must have read at least 100 news articles as I was reporting this story. Now the Sweden story from our last segment left us both feeling a little strange. And, you know, there was kind of antisemitism growing at this time, so he thought that someone had framed him, and six weeks after Nobel published his results in Nature, Kammerer sent a letter to Moscow. JAD: And what about the four kids that weren't raised with Barbara? JAD: Michael and Frances looked inside the brains of these rats and what they saw was that the rats who had been licked a lot as babies, they had more stuff in their head. All these chemicals racing by crashing into it, sticking, and one of the bits that gets covered up is that little bit that makes the proteins that create a maternal instinct. But were getting ahead of ourselves here. I'm going to graduate with honors and one day I'm going to be able to tell her, "Look, I did this. But I take it that we have more control over our destinies and our kids' destinies than we would've thought. But with the midwife toad, the female SAM KEAN: Lays her eggs on land and then the male midwife toad comes along SAM KEAN: And actually kind of sticks them to his back legs, like a bunch of whitish grapes, and then hops around with them basically until they hatch. Also, thanks to Carl Zimmer whose latest is. Copyright 2022 New York Public Radio. I'm almost done. And it just so happens this town is a perfect place to dig. JAD: You got your good parents and your bad parents. Brain disease. [chuckles]. Okay, I'm here. She said, "Well, she's just beautiful and she has lips like a baby doll." DESTINY HARRIS: My situation turned out positive. Olov told us, take heart disease. You're finishing college, right? How old are your boys right now? [chuckles]. That tongue is doing something to the DNA. Are you nine? That is a bad way to start a kid's life but that's just the beginning of the kid's life. You are not God. But the results are very clear. [chuckles], Yes, yes. I think all parents do this, is that you slip into this Lamarckian delusion that What you do with your kids can somehow rewrite all of that. If you start smoking when you're 10, 11 something like that, you end up having children with more problems. He thought it worked with humans, too. CARL ZIMMER: He was revealing it with experiments. SAM KEAN: That was the implication, except Kammerer tried to defend himself by saying CARL ZIMMER: "Do you think I'm a Dummkopf, or an idiot, because that's what I would have to be if I left a forgery with ink standing around openly in the laboratory where so many of my enemies would have entry?". And um PAT: Doctors would later explain to Barbara that Destiny's mom had been addicted to drugs while she was pregnant. If you're a starving boy between 9 to 12 years old, now it doesn't matter a whole lot what happens to you after this, your grandchildren will have one-quarter the risk of heart disease. MICHAEL MEANEY: Yeah, you can't touch that. JAD: And these things are called, apparently, methyl groups. I just got custody of my eight-year-old son. It's against the rules. It's writer, Sam Kean again, and here's, he says, what you need to know about the midwife toad. What's happening during this time is that you're setting aside the stock of cells that you're going to draw on in the future to make sperm cells. When you first hear about this, what goes through your mind? And then, Michael just launched into this thing. [ARCHIVAL Clip, News: Barbara Harris's solution is simpler than anything else out there. Okay, you want to say bye? PAT: This great. And they had more. JAD: So now, the genes can make the proteins that make the rats a good mom? There were four girls and Barbara and Destiny told me that a few years ago they found three of them and they all either were in college or had finished college. She was totally an oops kid. Peanut butter, there we go. ROBERT: They won't grow much on the outside, but on the inside OLOV BYGREN: That is the time where the sperms are developing. KARIN BORGKVIST LJUNG: She was born 1904 and this is OLOV BYGREN: Everything happening in the family KARIN BORGKVIST LJUNG: Nelson, he was an idiot. Famine again, and these changes would just bounce back and forth. Life is hard.". They have found very similar effects for smoking, for instance. Thanks to Olov Bygren, reporter Pejk Malinovski and Karin Borgkvist Ljung, and I'm a senior archivist at the National Archive in Marieberg in Stockholm. ROBERT: So if they saw somebody who was starving as a kid in 1820, they could then see, "Well, when those people had children and grandchildren, did anything change? Kinda makes me claustrophobic. I know! As a parent, you are a tiny blip in a very, very, long story. ROBERT: Just for those years. His example with humans was a blacksmith. I had a little basketball for her. Kalia came too. JAD: How do those cycles perpetuate? CARL ZIMMER: You know, the fact is that taking care of animals, trying to keep them alive in a building is not an easy thing, especially if it's 1903. In any case, these books tell you when each of these folks died, how they died. All right, I'll get in the water." SAM KEAN: In a little community called verkalix. Don't you see, somehow the mother's tongue is getting all the way down in there and going [mumbles] and messing with the baby's DNA. This lady right here is still taking drugs and she could be pregnant again next month.]. ], What's the worst thing you have been called by one of your critics?]. ROBERT: Because it's got the thing stuck to it? This was a really radical place at the time because you have to remember that people studying animals up till now, they were basically studying preserved specimens, and so on. And I know fate is gonna give them a couple random mutations in those genes. SAM KEAN: Basically, the midwife toad has a strange habit for toads. I think that's where Lamarck's ideas can be woven in and make some sense. One time, and I'm on flighter. Where we began, they will accomplish. Suddenly you're marked. You just haven't evolved for this and there's no way you can, at least not quickly. And in 1989, when the story we're telling now started, she was living in California, in Orange County. Listen Jan 20, 2023 And you have to bear in mind that at this point, it only had one hand left. I don't think that puts me in the same category as Hitler. Once a kid is born, their genetic fate is pretty much sealed. PAT: But a year later, the social worker called again. More of this particular protein. Then she goes, "Oh wait, I didn't give birth to you. RADIOLAB Podcast "Inheritance" Homework Assignment Name: Rohan Desai PSUID: 9 6241 8529 Listen to the first three stories of the "Inheritance" Radiolab Podcast (Control + click on link to access podcast. [chuckles]. Nice, cool water. Taylor Swift's Never Getting Back Together. But, this hour were gonna fight this sort of sad sack feeling of inevitability and impotence. I mean, were not gonna do that ourselves. And again, Barbara thinks, "Come on, but if this little girl is here, she should be with her brother and sister. Move on to the next cage, yes, no? 2K views almost 2 years ago 48:23 Love it or hate it, the freedom to say obnoxious and subversive things is the quintessence of what makes America America. Kammerer puts on a suit and he walks off into the mountains Outside Vienna on a Rocky mountain trail. Okay, and then I just had to accept it. Well, he thought it might have been an assistant trying to frame him because he was Jewish. PAT: Yeah. BARBARA HARRIS: He wasn't a little happy baby. PAT'S DAD: Calling in to help read the credits. Even if it helps, it's horrifying. Harris says her program, children requiring a caring community, or CRACK], Can prevent thousands of unwanted births to drug-addicted women. [chuckles], OLOV BYGREN: Yes, yes. Like shed give the women a choice. They began to grow these all puffy things on their hands. Were there any consequences? ROBERT: And this idea won him a lot of fans, including, not surprisingly, the Soviets. He'd fall asleep and just wake up screaming. PAT: Could you just tell us what you are doing now? And one of them is called the thyroid system. Just to be sure, we asked Frances Champagne what she thinks of this data. Okay. Your grade will be based on how complete and correct your answers are. Anyhow, so you got this guy, Paul Kammerer, who's good with animals. JAD: If they see methyl groups sitting on that bit of DNA, they are pissed. JAD: Or very many of them right at all, but, you know, his basic idea seems to be true. Like. JAD: I initially felt very hopeful and excited about this research because it seems to suggest that a body, one body can respond to an environment and change and be flexible in a way we didn't think was possible. These are women who love their children, who sought help. I asked Barbara about some of the things that she'd said because, to be totally honest, they kind of turn my stomach. It's a very different kind of front line, where urgent work means moving slow, and time is marked out in tiny pre-planned steps. JAD: But were gonna play you stories where JAD: This is Radiolab. There's going to be this massacre of toads and only a few lucky ones are going to survive. You've got these toads who hate water. You mean, if you had a starving grandfather, you would be a healthier boy for the because you had a starving grandfather? BARBARA HARRIS: And I knew that the only way I was going to get a daughter was if I went and became a foster parent and asked for one. And then that baby would stretch and stretch, and it would give a little more stretching to its baby. Inheritance, what you can move on to the next generation and what you can't. CARL ZIMMER: And when it came time to mate, the males and the females, they would mate in the water. Maybe you can explain this to me, Robert. That was amazing. I think what's weird here is that is that we started trying to make a difference in our children and now we're surprise attacked by our grandparents. They present previous theories on evolution and then present the currently accepted Darwinian Theory of Evolution. Do you know anything about the other four? Radiolab is on YouTube! JAD: Now the Sweden story from our last segment left us both feeling a little strange. CARL ZIMMER: Lamarckism pretty much died there. You just haven't evolved for this and there's no way you can, at least not quickly. JAD: No, not brain cells. That doesn't matter. Catch up with new episodes and hear classics from our archive. Because while you might have a lot of influence, you know, genetically speaking, over your kids and their kids, you don't seem to have a lot of control. JAD: So he's got to live his life as a toad with all this baggage on him? So its like grandpa's struggle is jumping forward and giving me a leg up? MICHAEL MEANEY: Known as transcription factors. Yeah, there you go. No, she was an oops kid. It was something they acquired during their lifetime. But, I said this to Lynn, "Despite all the things that trouble me about Barbara's program, I feel like what she's trying to do is to stop a kid from getting born into a childhood that's going to suck.". I could have turned out like some of the other kids. BARBARA HARRIS: I decided to have a press conference in my front yard to announce what I was doing. OLOV BYGREN: It was very interesting discovery. In my naive mind, I didn't have a clue what a big deal this was. The event that really sets this story in motion, the set of events, happened a few months after Barbara had brought Destiny home. So much can happen after that. To build these terrariums and aquariums and stock them with animals. Because there is more data, more information about the people of verkalix, going farther back into the past than you can find almost anywhere else on Earth. That you're just renaming it. You know what they're going to go do with that money. You know? SAM KEAN: It does, it does make kind of a folk sense. So were getting close to the moment of truth, because there it is. CARL ZIMMER: At this really marvelous place called the Vivarium. You have to look at one cage, say, are they licking? "To Whom It May Concern, I have been doing very good. SAM KEAN: I guess the way I would look at it is that you can change your environment a lot more easily than you can change your genes. JAD: And then, Michael just launched into this thing. Yes, she has the same name as me. Look, in the end, what do I know? Like, mine are bigger, you know." CARL ZIMMER: And he makes a very careful study of this hand. I mean, when you look at the records, you don't see huge spikes in mortality. We need to oblige the constraints of WNYC copyright arrangements and apologise for any inconveniences caused. [ARCHIVAL Clip, News: Barbara Harris says she's convinced more than a dozen women], [ARCHIVAL Clip, News: Have accepted her offer to be sterilized in return for money.]. And you have to bear in mind that at this point, it only had one hand left. In this episode, originally aired in 2012, we put nature and nurture on a collision course and discover how outside forces can find a way inside us, and change not just our hearts and minds, but the basic biological blueprint that we pass on to future generations._Support Radiolab by becoming a member of The Lab today. And she told Barbara, "There's something you need to know about this baby.". But the story he told us begins around 25 years ago. I said, "This will be the last one. Oh my goodness. I mean like, with the licking, is it a teaching thing where, you know, the babies become good mothers because FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: They've seen it and they've repeated the experience. You can't change your DNA. JAD: [laughs] Youre just just judo, that's all this is. Radiolab is supported in part by the National Science Foundation and by the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation, enhancing public understanding of science and technology in the modern world. So by now it's 1994, and Barbara is thinking You know? PAT: That's really impressive. In pictures, he has that, you know, that crazy Einstein fuzzy hair thing. JAD: Lamarck said, You wanna know how a giraffe got its long neck?, JAD: One day this giraffe, mother giraffe, lets say, was looking up in the tree and saw some fruit, and had to stretch he neck, and stretch again. OLOV BYGREN: Higher frequencies of heart attacks. All right, I'll get in the water." PEJK MALINOVSKI: Here we have how much they harvested. [ARCHIVAL CLIP, Jad Abumrad: Well lets lets read the book first. SAM KEAN: This is what's called the slow growth period. Because you begin with a mother's lick that ends up with a deep, deep change in the baby, not just the good, warm, fuzzy feeling, but a fundamental shift in who that baby is, and who that baby will be. JAD: Many years later, he and this woman. And youre saying that part of the DNA is covered up? PAT: Like shed give the women a choice. [chuckles]. He'd fall asleep and just wake up screaming. So imagine the DNA in that brain cell. Move on to the next cage, yes, no? ROBERT: And youre saying that part of the DNA is covered up? LULU: Yeah, thats it. JAD: Now, according to Carl, your genes are still fixed. JAD: It's off-limits. That's it. The authoritative record of programming is the audio record. He thought that because theyre swinging hammers all day, they got big bulky muscles, and then theyd pass the muscles to their children. Yes. He's not just talking about toads anymore, he's gone way beyond toads. And The other day someone was whistling and I was like, "Stop it", and it just hit me, I was like, "Oh God, I was him", it's never appeared until now. I mean that's a different kind of odds, but its Our staff includes Alan Horn, Soren Wheeler, Pat Walters With help from Matt Kielty, Chris [unintelligible 01:04:17], Special thanks to Martin [unintelligible 01:04:21], Copyright 2022 New York Public Radio. PAT: That's a lot of people. Radiolab - Transcripts Subscribe 187 episodes Radiolab is on a curiosity bender. Radiolab 50.3K subscribers Subscribe 29 1.5K views 6 months ago On this episode, the case that pushed one Supreme Court justice to a nervous breakdown, brought a boiling feud to a head, and. Thyroid hormones then get into the brain and they turn on certain neural chemical signals. But it failed. [ARCHIVAL CLIP, BARBARA HARRIS: Well, I just want to eliminate drug-addicted babies from being born. What you see in the records, is that one year 100 liters. As he's doing his rounds, he stops by the midwife toad terrarium, he looks down at that little male toad with grapes stuck to his legs and he wonders, "How adaptable is that little guy?" You can imagine these toads are like, "Dammit, fine. Well, there was an expert on reptiles named G. Kingsley Noble. Knock it right off the DNA. LYNN PALTROW: I think I was really horrified and terrified. MICHAEL MEANEY: What happens when moms lick their pups is that the pup beccomes aroused. Yes. A few years later, there'd be a harsh winter. ROBERT: [laughs] "This may hurt you my son, but I'm doing it for my grandchildren.". Radiolab Society & Culture Science Latest Transcripts What Up Holmes? And since Kammerer kept the heat up, toads basically had to stay there, in this watery place that they had not evolved for. He thought that you could kind of engineer societies by changing the environment. And eventually, over the millenia, what youd get, is a creature with a very long neck. PAT: So we did stop. We neuter them.". ], [ARCHIVAL CLIP, BARBARA HARRIS: Probably racist.]. ], This could mean sterilization, it could mean getting an IUD.]. I guess retard. They decided to explore this question, They thought, "Let's just see if we can figure out how it is the rat mothers pass down their parenting skills?". Its something I still think about all the time. JAD: Even if it helps, it's horrifying. PAT: Destiny says before she was born, her mom had four other girls. I feel that they should all be sterilized. When Emil gets to be eight, I'm cutting him off. You know, they say it only takes one time. JAD: So imagine the DNA in that brain cell. It might be a mixture. If Barbara had gotten to Destiny's birth mom, Destiny, Kalia, this moment, none of it would exist. Who are you? ROBERT: According to Darwin, life and changes are ruled by chance. If . What happens when moms lick their pups is that the pup beccomes aroused. One time, and I'm on flighter. JAD: Visited Kammerer's lab when Kammerer wasn't there. PAT: And she told Barbara, "There's something you need to know about this baby.". BARBARA HARRIS: It was just no baby should have to come into the world like that. From pneumonia. Plus, find other cool things we did in the past like miniseries, music videos, short films and animations, behind-the-scenes features, Radiolab live shows, and more. JAD: Do you have any theories for how this tongue is tickling the DNA, or whatever it's doing? We inherited this beloved show that we first fell in love with as listeners. She asked my opinion and that's what I'm giving. PAT: But she says she doesn't feel that way anymore. The results are obvious to you. CARL ZIMMER: He hit the lecture circuit and he hit it big. Well, yep, that is so true. BARBARA HARRIS: I was just pissed at what they have done to my children. My situation turned out positive. That's the headline for his talk, and then CARL ZIMMER: Right below the headlines says, "Scientist's great discovery which may change us all.". You're slippery, partner's slippery. Cause we were talking to science writer, Carl Zimmer, and he told us that back in the early 1900s, this tension between Lamarck and Darwin got extra tense. You know, like if you're abused as a kid, you were more likely to abuse your kid, but still, you got to wonder. Nobody has a right to do that to a baby. In this magazine article, Barbara even said, quote, "We don't allow dogs to breed. SAM KEAN: And these effects, in fact, were so strong that you could trace it to the grandfather. And he was going through withdrawal. You are not God. She should be with me. On the one hand, she says, immediately, cheques started arriving. The show is nationally syndicated and is available as a podcast. When Kammerer published his results initially, a bunch of scientists immediately began to say CARL ZIMMER: "Wait a minute, hold on here, it would be nice if life was like that but life isn't like that. And when methyl groups stick to that part of the DNA, the maternal instinct is effectively turned off. OLOV BYGREN: A lot of diagnoses actually. But she says, you can tell right away, just by looking, that some rat moms don't lick their kids a lot. Isaiah's in college and Taylor and Brandon, I met them at Barbara's house and they seemed to be fine. _. Radiolab is on YouTube! So thats the reason, of course, that we work with rats because we can get inside the brain. OLOV BYGREN: Well, the DNA, the RNA, micro-RNAs, histone. PAT: Just a little. It means what if grandpa has a bad day? Yeah. I just didnt think. JAD: In just two generations, these toads seem to have done something that should have taken, I don't know, 50, 100 generations? LYNN PALTROW: Tell me what your image of a drug-using pregnant woman is. A little village? She got one. JAD: Because here's the thing, the churches up in verkalix kept incredibly detailed records. You're obviously a great mom, but that feels cold to me. [laughs]. ], [ARCHIVAL Clip, News: To any drug-addicted woman who will agree to have no more babies. ROBERT: You cant say that. It takes a while. [ARCHIVAL Clip, Panel: Well, I mean, Hitler thought that if you were Jewish, that you had given up the right to be a mother and hed sterilize people as well. ROBERT: What does it look like? JAD: [expletive] That was awesome. Radiolab is on YouTube! LATIF: And as of 11:01 a.m. on Tuesday, when we're recording this, we have not broken the show. LULU: In a very real way, weve been thinking a lot about inheritance. Yes, no, okay, move on to the next cage, yes, no? Mamaw was the one I'd come to see. The connection between trees Normally trees from different species are competitors. Radiolab branded apparel and accessories are available at the Official Radiolab Online Store, aka the Swag Lab. Remind me this. And when it came time to mate, the males and the females, they would mate in the water. In this episode, originally aired in 2012, we put nature and nurture on a collision course and discover how outside forces can find a way inside us, and change not just our hearts and minds, but the basic biological blueprint that we pass on to future generations.Support Radiolab by becoming a member of The Lab today. PAT: It would be wrong to assume the women Barbara talks about on TV [ARCHIVAL CLIP, BARBARA HARRIS: These women don't just have one and two babies. Instead of dying at 40, I'd live to 70? And there were from the beginning. And were trying to think about how do we keep it the same in a lot of ways, but also how do we let it grow into something beyond what it was originally built to be. If they see methyl groups sitting on that bit of DNA, they are pissed. Its a terrible thought! And when she had a baby. PAT: The question that was stuck in my head right then was, "If you could choose between being born knowing that your life might end up like that and not like it is now, or not been born at all, what would you have done?". JAD: But wouldnt it be nice if thats how it worked? But that you supposedly can't get to. We ended up talking to the guy who did the work. If you were a boy in verkalix between the ages of 9 and 12 years old, that's the window, 9 to 12, you're a boy, and then we have one of those terribly rough winters, and you're eating much less than normal. PAT: Because she says as soon as she saw Destiny BARBARA HARRIS: Sat her on my lap, with her little dress on and her little curly hair. JAD: To fellow named Jean-Baptiste Pierre Antoine de Monet, chevalier de Lamarck. She's not offering treatment, she's not offering counseling, and there are programs that do that. Because the Soviets, they believe in Karl Marx's idea that human beings were an improvable species, that if you can change the conditions around people, you change the people. You got to help boost if you had a starving grandfather. PAT: So by now it's 1994, and Barbara is thinking PAT: You know? Yes, but creating an assumption that there is a class of people who don't deserve to procreate, who aren't worthy of procreating the human race, leads you down a path that we should have great concern about. ], [ARCHIVAL CLIP, Jad Abumrad: How bout this one?]. Whole lifetime of stretching. The results make it probable that our descendants will learn more quickly what we know well, will execute more easily what we have accomplished with great effort, will be able to withstand what injured us almost to the point of death. DESTINY HARRIS: Yes. You can't see that on the radio but, hey, it's a fact of life. JAD: I want to start with a parental day dream for a second. In this episode, originally aired in 2012, we put nature and nurture on a collision course and discover how outside forces can find a way inside us, and change not just our hearts and minds, but the basic biological blueprint that we pass on to future generations. At this really marvelous place called the Vivarium. We neuter them.". Started with the tongue. And I packed up my stuff, it's pretty much done. CARL ZIMMER: He actually named his daughter Lacerta, which is a genus of lizard. No, I've only had somebody call and say they regret that they didn't stay on birth control. JAD: And I know fate is gonna give them a couple random mutations in those genes. ], [ARCHIVAL CLIP, BARBARA HARRIS: Like you said, when you were in your addiction like she is], [ARCHIVAL CLIP, BARBARA HARRIS: I didn't say I'm God. Peanut butter, there we go. PAT: For me, this whole story really shifted PAT: When I started spending some time with Destiny, Barbara's 22-year-old daughter. BARBARA HARRIS: "She's born and tested positive for PCP crack and heroin." According to Darwin, life and changes are ruled by chance. Just sing. In my naive mind, I didn't have a clue what a big deal this was. ROBERT: So what is the licking doing then? Watching this, I couldn't help but think that Destiny's very existence is probably the most interesting argument against what Barbara is doing. A really good radiolab about this called Inheritance. I'm in public health. Okay, you want to say bye? And well just let the old yahoos from whom we inheritedededed inherited it take it away. JAD: What can't you? Oh, that's a lot of potatoes. Or is it? ROBERT: But, this hour were gonna fight this sort of sad sack feeling of inevitability and impotence. And so, they bring MICHAEL MEANEY: A lot of friends to the party. Everybody we talked to seems to think there's something really interesting going on here. LYNN PALTROW: The fact that you're motivated by a really beautiful, important value, that we want healthy kids, doesn't mean the mechanism you're using is going to end up helping those kids. OLOV BYGREN: Looking for patterns in cardiovascular diseases, high blood pressure, and such. I just didnt think. She was thinking BARBARA HARRIS: "Everybody's motivated by money., BARBARA HARRIS: Can I offer these women money to use birth control? It would be wrong to think that they represent all women who use drugs while they're pregnant. ROBERT: So then the one that's in trouble, so thats one of one of eight? ROBERT: And there were from the beginning. BARBARA HARRIS: Because he couldn't hold formula down. by Nolan Moore. You're finishing college, right? ROBERT: He was a born nurturer and he adored animals. So yeah, she keeps me busy. And she's a complete nut. JEAN KEAN: My name is Jean Kean. She started to wish again that she could have a daughter. JAD: I think all parents do this, is that you slip into this Lamarckian delusion that JAD: What you do with your kids can somehow rewrite all of that. So. You cant say that. JAD: And looking at these swings in fortune, Olov realized what he had here was JAD: Because with all this data, he and his team could follow families forward in time, through the generations. SAM KEAN: You got to help boost if you had a starving grandfather. Stick around. Its gonna get messy. Get personalized recommendations, and learn where to watch across hundreds of streaming providers. OLOV BYGREN: So they didn't starve to death. I just saw them as child abusers. If your grandpa didn't starve, instead he lived through great times. 01:04:34 - Once a kid is born, their genetic fate is pretty much sealed. And all over the political spectrum, from Hollywood lefties to social conservatives. Only a few years later, the social worker called again watch across hundreds of streaming providers show nationally! 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